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Old 03-07-08, 01:55 PM
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PE ratio

One thing I dont understand totally is the PE ratio. There are some stocks that i've read that are predicted to well but have PE ratios much higher than the current share price. Ive seen the opposite for stocks that arent predicted to do much. How does that work?

Price of Share/earnings per share i got it but it seems too simple without understanding it qualitatively

For example of have one stock of A and is 20.00 per share and the EPS is .61, the PE is 32.78.

The price of share B is 6.24 and the EPS is .79, the PE is 7.94.

Stock A has a higher PE but a lower EPS than Stock B. Does that mean that Stock B is a better stock to invest in, all other things equal? For the sake of argument to we can say they are in the same business sector too.
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Old 03-14-08, 11:15 AM
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There is a lot of opinion on this. Many will disagree with me. But generally, yes, B is a better buy than A. This assumes that Earning at B is constant at $ 0.79 forever and Earning at A is $ 0.61 forever. (You know nothing lasts forever). In most cases, earning at both A and B is not constant. Stocks with higher P/E ratio like A is 'expected' to grow its earnings while low P/E stock like B is 'expected' to have stagnant or even declining earnings. Thus, the different P/E valuation attached to them.

This is just a general guideline. However, things like balance sheet strength and profit margin, A/R efficiency, inventory turnover, return on invested assets plays a big role on how to assign P/E ratio. (Even when they are in the same industries).
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Just to add to the discussion, here is what Investopedia has to say on PE ratios:

"A valuation ratio of a company's current share price compared to its per-share earnings.

Calculated as:



For example, if a company is currently trading at $43 a share and earnings over the last 12 months were $1.95 per share, the P/E ratio for the stock would be 22.05 ($43/$1.95).

EPS is usually from the last four quarters (trailing P/E), but sometimes it can be taken from the estimates of earnings expected in the next four quarters (projected or forward P/E). A third variation uses the sum of the last two actual quarters and the estimates of the next two quarters.

Also sometimes known as "price multiple" or "earnings multiple".

In general, a high P/E suggests that investors are expecting higher earnings growth in the future compared to companies with a lower P/E. However, the P/E ratio doesn't tell us the whole story by itself. It's usually more useful to compare the P/E ratios of one company to other companies in the same industry, to the market in general or against the company's own historical P/E. It would not be useful for investors using the P/E ratio as a basis for their investment to compare the P/E of a technology company (high P/E) to a utility company (low P/E) as each industry has much different growth prospects.

The P/E is sometimes referred to as the "multiple", because it shows how much investors are willing to pay per dollar of earnings. If a company were currently trading at a multiple (P/E) of 20, the interpretation is that an investor is willing to pay $20 for $1 of current earnings.

It is important that investors note an important problem that arises with the P/E measure, and to avoid basing a decision on this measure alone. The denominator (earnings) is based on an accounting measure of earnings that is susceptible to forms of manipulation, making the quality of the P/E only as good as the quality of the underlying earnings number."
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P/E by itself, in my opinion, means nothing unless it is extremely high or extremely low. You need to compare the P/E with other companies in the business (competitors) and your standard (S&P 500, Dow Index, etc.) in order to know if the P/E is high or low. Google taded at a P/E of 70 at one point...at the same time Yahoo traded at a P/E of 60...the S&P was at 21. Based on that, Google is very high but it competitor was high aswell. Therefore the whole sector was high so if you liked Google the High P/E should not have detered you. Infact, Google went up another 150 points.
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