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Old 04-24-07, 11:34 PM
freelance.shweta freelance.shweta is offline
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Newbie questions!

Hi all,

1stly let me thank all you guys for being part of this forum; its esp. a great place for newbies like me to atleast get started. I have been keenly interested in online stock trading for the last 2-3 months nw; but was unable to get anywhere due to lack of advice and direction.

I have about $2000 with me and I would like to invest them in stocks. I do not want to indulge in long-term investments for now as the $2000 mentioned are my only savings!!! (recent grad and just started working...). I want to start investing in such a way that I can earn atleast some money back soon (possibly in a few weeks time...) and I then want to recycle the return alongwith my initial $2000 in more similar trades.

I was told that online stock trades is the way to go but I am clueless HOW? Are there any other short-term trades that I can indulge in? Dont want to sound stupid but I just want to invest 2000; possibly make a couple of 100 / 1000 bucks in a few weeks, and then reinvest all of that...

PLEASE help!

* Please excuse me if any of the financial jargon in the query is incorrect!
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Old 04-25-07, 12:19 AM
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Hey welcome!

There are no sure fire ways to generate returns in the short run (or any run for that matter lol). Making a few thousand on $2000 is a very large return. The best preforming hedge fund in 2004 made 300% a year.

If you only remember one rule in finance, remember, to expect a higher return, you must take a higher risk.


Stick around the forums though, learn for a while. The kind of answers you're looking for can't be accurately described in one post, but I'm sure you'll pick up things quickly if you take the time to learn here.
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Old 04-25-07, 12:29 AM
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Yes, welcome to the site!

I know that this is probably what you don't want to hear, but I am going to tell you anyhow since it is important:

-"Before you invest your money, invest your time"

This little bit of advice has helped me quite a bit. In my own humble opinion, if you are expecting to make a grand in a few weeks off of $2000, then you are planning on gambling with stocks, rather than investing with them.

To start practicing with trading, click on this link Investopedia's Simulator - Stock Market Game. This will allow you to try certain tactics without having to put real money on the line.

Hope this does help you some, and I hope to see you around the site some more.

-Mark
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Old 04-25-07, 11:05 AM
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Long-term Investing

I think the most rationale aspect of finance is long-term investing; it allows for you to generate above fixed-income returns for the long-term. On the other hand, you need to be prepared in the case that you lost your job tomorrow; that's just a reality.

Most likely, you should pick 2 T-Bills in your Fidelity account and keep it in a RothIRA so you can take it out if you need it. You also could leave it in a Fidelity money market paying 5%. The banks will pay you 5.25% but since the money is outside of a Roth, you will pay federal, state, and local taxes. As long as you earn money, you can use a Roth. The only downside is that you must keep your earnings in your account. So after 5 years, you would need to leave $552.57 in the account and you could withdraw the $2,000. You could transfer this $552.57 to a Scottrade account (so you don't pay a $12 fee per year) and use the $2,000 for anything you like. If you violate these rules, you will pay a 10% penalty on the $552.57 that you earned.

A better option may be to use FASIX which has a .58% expense ratio; it averages a rate of return of 6.73% minus expenses of .58% equals 6.21%. The main thing at risk is interest. I would use a SimpleStartIRA to fund the account with $200 per month or put $200 in the first month and $1,800 shortly thereafter to put $2K in FASIX (to avoid the $12 fee). It also helps you avoid the $2,500 minimum. This will provide a return of 1% above the risk-free rate.

With $2,000, I would put $1,000 in VLEOX if aggressive or $1,000 in VALIX if conservative, $250 in PAXWX, $125 in WFIVX, and $125 in DTSVX. The average expense ratio is 1.25%. This leaves you with $500 shall the market drop so you can add to the market. You will pay approximately $18.75 per year if you choose this option.

Another option, much cheaper would be to put $1,325 in VTI/VBK. The expense ratio is only 0.1% (that means you will only pay $1.33 per year plus your $7 commission to buy and sell). You will have $675 to invest shall the market drop.

Another option is to pick 4 stocks. You should add more stocks to the portfolio as you get at least $500 in each stock. UTX, CAT, JNJ, PNRA/JCP, and 1 share of GOOG. These are real solid companies. Other stocks, such as MCD/COST, NOC, DE, GSK, and WM.

Best individual stocks (limit or market order):
GOOG - 1 share at $480
UTX - 8 shares at a limit order of $67.75 per share (GTC) or Market Order
COST - 9 shares at a limit order of $54.25
NOC - 6 shares at a limit order of $74.50

Commissions = $28 plus $14 per transfer ($7 to buy & $7 to sell)

Total Initial Cost, estimated costs
GOOG = $480.00
UTX = $542.00
COST = $488.25
NOC = $447

Commissions = $28 = 1.41%

Total Cost = $1,985.25
Cash = $14.75

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